Hypocrisy is easy, isn’t it?

Update: Now, all comments are removed under that post. Wow. My apologies, Facebook now hides comments in a funny way. The comments are still there.

Update 2: Somebody also removed a link to letters written by alumni. Seriously, guys? http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=114898180624#!/photo.php?pid=30593924&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=114898180624&aid=-1&id=84000121

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In a perfect world, I wouldn’t need to save every conversation on the Supporters of Synod site; well, apparently Adam and Eve ate a lot of that forbidden fruit! Here’s the “forbidden fruit” in Peter Wiggins’ post (all emphasis added).

Peter Wiggins (6/5/2010) Criticizing Dr. Hering for "took part in the civil actions leading to the ongoing civil injunction blocking the Associate Reformed Presbyterian Synod from its action (through Board restructuring) overriding Erskine College and Seminary Board of Trustees refusal to uphold the doctrine of the inerrancy of Scripture." Is false, Dr. Hering did not take part. Someone prove that he filed a lawsuit and took the arp church to court...Can't.

And, "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God." Christians must submit to the civil authorities too. Those who voted with the Moderator's Commission in the ARPC did not submit to the civil authorities and thus did not submit to God either.

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"For it is commendable if a man bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because he is conscious of God. But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God."

the majority of the ARP synod sinned and continues to sin, what good is submitting to that sin?

This case had to be taken to the civil courts because of the obstinate Synod. Think, if a civil court ruled wrongly, what would be the logical thing? to take it to that same court because maybe that court will change its ruling? No, you take it to another court, typically a higher court. When the ARP Synod (like a court) failed, the problem had to be taken somewhere else, a place that could administer the justice that needed to be done.

Justice is not always done in this world; we see that everyday. But on the Last Day it will be done for all to see. And no one will be able to complain by saying, "This isn't fair." D.A. Carson

Tim Phillips And describing the civil court as the "higher court" over General Synod is perfectly fitting with the spirit of Erastianism. Careful putting that trust in the secular authorities; they will not always rule in your favor or to your liking. Furthermore, you are assuming what you wish to prove -- that the civil authority has authority over a church court in ecclesiastical matters. You are affirming exactly what the article wished to prove.

Tim Phillips And btw, Peter, feel free to express your opinions, but please refrain from accusations of sin and the use of invectives in your posts. Those are not helpful to the discussion.

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Seriously, Tim? Now for some quotes from Supporters of Synod Facebook group, never deleted. Oh, right. Nobody can ask the Church to repent of sin, but Board members are fair game. Makes sense. These are just four quotes; I’m sure we can all find at least four more, not to mention Chuck Wilson (who makes it so easy I didn’t bother looking). What would be nice?

1. Don’t delete posts that disagree with your point of view.

2. Don’t publicly criticize others for what you do yourself.

 

Tim Phillips Has Mr. Mitchell publicly repented of his actions? May the Lord move his heart to do so. (3/16/2010)

Robert Glenn Rhyne III “I don't know Dr. Hering personally, but I've heard many positive things about him. It's very sad. We should all be praying that he would repent from actions.” (3/25/2010 )

Tim Phillips (immediately following Robert’s post) “I agree.”

Anthony Navarro I am wondering, do Mr Mitchell and Patrick, both ruling elders, have an opinion on the ARP elders who violated their vows before the Lord and their respective congregations as elders and in direct contrast to the teaching of 1Corinthians 6 that Mr. Turbeville points out above?

As members of the BoT they should ask *those* men to restrain themselves from fleeing to the courts of the Gentiles when they could not submit to the court of their own church they swore to defend and put an end to this foolishness. They need to be called to repentance, and be reconciled to the people they made an oath before the Lord to love, submit, and to serve. Their behavior in this matter brings no glory to Christ to whom they will ultimately answer the question “Have you fed my sheep?” (5/1/2010)

The Holy Bible The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. (Luke 18:11)